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	<title>Comments on: Want to Work at Delta Air Lines?  You&#8217;ll Need a Note From Your Mom.</title>
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		<title>By: Apolinaras "Apollo" Sinkevicius &#124; LeanStartups.com</title>
		<link>http://www.cluewagon.com/2009/04/want-to-work-at-delta-air-lines-youll-need-a-note-from-your-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>Apolinaras "Apollo" Sinkevicius &#124; LeanStartups.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporate culture determines what kind of service customers will receive. Therefore it is no surprise to me now that Delta is doing so poorly. I stopped flying with them 10 years ago.
When it comes to hiring, the most moronic thing you can do is hire same type of people. There is a reason why diverse companies do better (at least in my experience).
I can&#039;t believe NYT wasted their time on someone that moronic.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Apolinaras &quot;Apollo&quot; Sinkevicius &#124; LeanStartups.com’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://leanstartups.com/2009/03/want-to-be-great-ceo-get-your-nose-in-it.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Want to be great CEO? Get your nose in it!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporate culture determines what kind of service customers will receive. Therefore it is no surprise to me now that Delta is doing so poorly. I stopped flying with them 10 years ago.<br />
When it comes to hiring, the most moronic thing you can do is hire same type of people. There is a reason why diverse companies do better (at least in my experience).<br />
I can&#8217;t believe NYT wasted their time on someone that moronic.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Apolinaras &#8220;Apollo&#8221; Sinkevicius | LeanStartups.com’s last blog post..<a href="http://leanstartups.com/2009/03/want-to-be-great-ceo-get-your-nose-in-it.html" rel="nofollow">Want to be great CEO? Get your nose in it!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: HR Minion</title>
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		<dc:creator>HR Minion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 19:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really getting very close to some dangerous question areas. All it takes is a lawsuit and a clever lawyer...

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;HR Minion’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://hrminion.blogspot.com/2009/05/im-certified-baby.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;m Certified , Baby!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really getting very close to some dangerous question areas. All it takes is a lawsuit and a clever lawyer&#8230;</p>
<p><abbr><em>HR Minion’s last blog post..<a href="http://hrminion.blogspot.com/2009/05/im-certified-baby.html" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;m Certified , Baby!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 07:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, just wow.  As much as I would need a job, I think that would be the first interview I&#039;d walk out of if I&#039;m asked very personal, inappropriate (and uncomfortable) questions like that.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Carla’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/greenandchic/~3/zwVi6uK6Pgw/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Organic Baby &amp; Toddler Clothes - My Little Snuggle Bug&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, just wow.  As much as I would need a job, I think that would be the first interview I&#8217;d walk out of if I&#8217;m asked very personal, inappropriate (and uncomfortable) questions like that.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Carla’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/greenandchic/~3/zwVi6uK6Pgw/" rel="nofollow">Organic Baby &amp; Toddler Clothes &#8211; My Little Snuggle Bug</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking forward to that post.

I hope your kid has just a mild case of the flu.  A really great food to help is chicken soup with lemon juice added.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to that post.</p>
<p>I hope your kid has just a mild case of the flu.  A really great food to help is chicken soup with lemon juice added.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry Sandberg Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry Sandberg Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 21:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles--actually, that&#039;s a great blog post topic.  Watch for it...soon (not sure how soon because my kid has just come down with the flu, which this particular week is turning out to be kind of a big deal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles&#8211;actually, that&#8217;s a great blog post topic.  Watch for it&#8230;soon (not sure how soon because my kid has just come down with the flu, which this particular week is turning out to be kind of a big deal).</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;cultural fit &quot; - I&#039;m sorry; But I do NOT get that and never have.  

I have always viewed it the way you are viewing this guy as some one who wants to hire &quot;people who came from backgrounds just like the people who already work here.&quot;

If your organization has a &lt;B&gt;professional&lt;/B&gt; environment and the job candidate has the necessary skills/experience and comes across in the interview as &lt;B&gt;professional&lt;/B&gt; then how can they not be a &quot;cultural fit&quot;?  What other culture are hiring managers refering to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;cultural fit &#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;m sorry; But I do NOT get that and never have.  </p>
<p>I have always viewed it the way you are viewing this guy as some one who wants to hire &#8220;people who came from backgrounds just like the people who already work here.&#8221;</p>
<p>If your organization has a <b>professional</b> environment and the job candidate has the necessary skills/experience and comes across in the interview as <b>professional</b> then how can they not be a &#8220;cultural fit&#8221;?  What other culture are hiring managers refering to?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert LaGow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert LaGow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let&#039;s be honest, how many interviews do you think he really sits in on these days, what with being busy CEOing and all.

Guys like him are job security for HR professionals.

P.S. -- Hey there Kerry, long time no see.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Robert LaGow’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.shrm.org/annual-conference-2009/?p=334&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;George Clooney cast in HR role&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s be honest, how many interviews do you think he really sits in on these days, what with being busy CEOing and all.</p>
<p>Guys like him are job security for HR professionals.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8212; Hey there Kerry, long time no see.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Robert LaGow’s last blog post..<a href="http://blogs.shrm.org/annual-conference-2009/?p=334" rel="nofollow">George Clooney cast in HR role</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Kerry Sandberg Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry Sandberg Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically, it is not illegal to ask personal questions.  It can be illegal to apply the results though.

For example, here in Wisconsin, it&#039;s illegal to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.  If his questions led to the revelation that his candidate was gay, he could not discriminate on that basis if he were in Wisconsin (the other states are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, plus the District of Columbia).  This is NOT illegal in Georgia though (no surprise there).

Marital status is also a protected class in some states (although again, not Georgia).  Religion, national origin, etc. are protected everywhere, so if your answers revealed that information, it could be a problem.

Let me be clear:  I&#039;m not saying Richard Anderson or anyone else at Delta would discriminate against anyone.  I have absolutely no reason to believe that (and in fact, on the first point in particular, larger airlines tend to be pretty gay-friendly).  But when you ask questions like this, it leads candidates, especially unsuccessful candidates, to wonder if revealing one of these things is the reason.  Often they&#039;re wrong, but companies spend a lot of time and money defending that stuff.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s best to never ask questions like this (aside from what I believe to be the even better reason:  they don&#039;t tell you whether the person will be successful in the job).  

I bet the HR people and the lawyers at Delta are not too thrilled with Anderson right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, it is not illegal to ask personal questions.  It can be illegal to apply the results though.</p>
<p>For example, here in Wisconsin, it&#8217;s illegal to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.  If his questions led to the revelation that his candidate was gay, he could not discriminate on that basis if he were in Wisconsin (the other states are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, plus the District of Columbia).  This is NOT illegal in Georgia though (no surprise there).</p>
<p>Marital status is also a protected class in some states (although again, not Georgia).  Religion, national origin, etc. are protected everywhere, so if your answers revealed that information, it could be a problem.</p>
<p>Let me be clear:  I&#8217;m not saying Richard Anderson or anyone else at Delta would discriminate against anyone.  I have absolutely no reason to believe that (and in fact, on the first point in particular, larger airlines tend to be pretty gay-friendly).  But when you ask questions like this, it leads candidates, especially unsuccessful candidates, to wonder if revealing one of these things is the reason.  Often they&#8217;re wrong, but companies spend a lot of time and money defending that stuff.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s best to never ask questions like this (aside from what I believe to be the even better reason:  they don&#8217;t tell you whether the person will be successful in the job).  </p>
<p>I bet the HR people and the lawyers at Delta are not too thrilled with Anderson right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the Delta interview, too, and one thing that struck me was how utterly uninteresting the article made the guy sound. The gramatically identical one-idea sentences were a numbing cadence. Imagine being trapped in a boring conversation about your dad or your kids with this guy! (Hey, wait, isn&#039;t the interview about me? My dad/kids didn&#039;t apply. I did.)

On an job interview, I want to see what makes management&#039;s eyes sparkle. What gets them sitting on the edge of their seat and talking with their hands? Is it the same stuff that makes ME want to work in this industry? What are we going to do all day for the next three to five years if I get the job? Are we both excited and engaged about that? 

I do not see how that includes talk about my family. Isn&#039;t it illegal to ask me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the Delta interview, too, and one thing that struck me was how utterly uninteresting the article made the guy sound. The gramatically identical one-idea sentences were a numbing cadence. Imagine being trapped in a boring conversation about your dad or your kids with this guy! (Hey, wait, isn&#8217;t the interview about me? My dad/kids didn&#8217;t apply. I did.)</p>
<p>On an job interview, I want to see what makes management&#8217;s eyes sparkle. What gets them sitting on the edge of their seat and talking with their hands? Is it the same stuff that makes ME want to work in this industry? What are we going to do all day for the next three to five years if I get the job? Are we both excited and engaged about that? </p>
<p>I do not see how that includes talk about my family. Isn&#8217;t it illegal to ask me?</p>
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		<title>By: Ask a Manager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ask a Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect there are a lot of people with no idea how to hire and no motivation to learn, but what&#039;s especially interesting about this guy is that he has no shame about it! He&#039;s almost bragging about his terrible interviewing style.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ask a Manager’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://askamanager.blogspot.com/2009/04/too-youngimmature-for-promotion.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;too young/immature for a promotion?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect there are a lot of people with no idea how to hire and no motivation to learn, but what&#8217;s especially interesting about this guy is that he has no shame about it! He&#8217;s almost bragging about his terrible interviewing style.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ask a Manager’s last blog post..<a href="http://askamanager.blogspot.com/2009/04/too-youngimmature-for-promotion.html" rel="nofollow">too young/immature for a promotion?</a></em></abbr></p>
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