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		<title>By: Going Back to the Old Ways? &#171; The Job Quest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Going Back to the Old Ways? &#171; The Job Quest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] should not include a picture or other personal information with their application materials (see this post on Clue Wagon as an example of what people who know the field say). I understand why, since seeing a picture can [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lorraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A reader asked me to critique her resume. It was 4 pages, 9 pt font, and left &amp; right margins of a quarter inch. Needless to say it was just a tad wordy...
.-= Lorraine´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://undergroundjobnetwork.com/?p=1872&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When To Introduce Your 30/60/90-Day Plan In the Interview&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reader asked me to critique her resume. It was 4 pages, 9 pt font, and left &amp; right margins of a quarter inch. Needless to say it was just a tad wordy&#8230;<br />
<span class="cluv"> Lorraine´s last blog ..<a href="http://undergroundjobnetwork.com/?p=1872" rel="nofollow">When To Introduce Your 30/60/90-Day Plan In the Interview</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Kerry Sandberg Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry Sandberg Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles---I am totally fine with a link to work samples.  In fact, I like to see that stuff up front when possible.  My objection is to people who refuse to send me the resume...they just send an email that says, &quot;I&#039;m interested in X job.  My resume is &lt;here&gt;.&quot;  This was big in the early 2000s, when having your own web page was a new thing, and there are still people doing it.  The thing is, I&#039;m not going to click on a random link without knowing who the hell you are...and your web page is pretty much useless in terms of the resume anyway, because I can&#039;t get it into the applicant tracking system (and often, I can&#039;t even print it without formatting issues).

But for work samples---no problem.

As for the 1970 thing...in 1989 or so I got hired as a temp to clean out the files of a latex manufacturing plant.  They had files going back to 1970, and they hadn&#039;t thrown anything out.  I remember being blown away by the fact that the resumes included that info, and that the employment application asked for it as well.  For a kid born around that time, it was a rude awakening.

Then my parents gave me the newspaper from the day I was born.  The ads for admin jobs like mine included requirements like &quot;attractive girl wanted to answer phones.&quot;  It blew my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles&#8212;I am totally fine with a link to work samples.  In fact, I like to see that stuff up front when possible.  My objection is to people who refuse to send me the resume&#8230;they just send an email that says, &#8220;I&#8217;m interested in X job.  My resume is <here>.&#8221;  This was big in the early 2000s, when having your own web page was a new thing, and there are still people doing it.  The thing is, I&#8217;m not going to click on a random link without knowing who the hell you are&#8230;and your web page is pretty much useless in terms of the resume anyway, because I can&#8217;t get it into the applicant tracking system (and often, I can&#8217;t even print it without formatting issues).</p>
<p>But for work samples&#8212;no problem.</p>
<p>As for the 1970 thing&#8230;in 1989 or so I got hired as a temp to clean out the files of a latex manufacturing plant.  They had files going back to 1970, and they hadn&#8217;t thrown anything out.  I remember being blown away by the fact that the resumes included that info, and that the employment application asked for it as well.  For a kid born around that time, it was a rude awakening.</p>
<p>Then my parents gave me the newspaper from the day I was born.  The ads for admin jobs like mine included requirements like &#8220;attractive girl wanted to answer phones.&#8221;  It blew my mind.</here></p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Number 1 - Objective Statements used to be a must.  I always felt they were useless because they were &quot;required&quot; and yet had to be very generic in order to not disqualify you.  Unfortunately, I still once in a while hear of some hiring managers who have put resumes in the &quot;no&quot; pile because there is no objective.  Thankfully I think they are very much in the minority.

Number 3 - &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you include it, you look like you are still living in, like, &lt;B&gt;1970&lt;/B&gt;.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Hey!  I was around in 1970; and, NO it was not the norm &quot;back then&quot; to include such info.  The only resumes that include such info were, and still are,  actors and other entertainers who also have to include head shots with their resume because &quot;looks&quot; are a part of the job requirements. Now if you had said the 1940s maybe I wouldn&#039;t have been so bothered by your &quot;out of touch&quot; comment.

Number 4 - I do include links to my professional web page as that is where they can download samples of my training materials (I am a software trainer). Most of these materials are computer based (i.e. Flash or PowerPoint files) which do not translate well to simple paper copies.  By including the link the hiring folks can look at my samples &lt;I&gt;before&lt;/I&gt; the interview.  This way they have a better idea of my skills and experience when they interview me. 

What I think should be added is that when one does provide a link to a professional page that page must be &lt;B&gt;current&lt;/B&gt;.  Last year, I was working on a temp assignment and was asked to review some resumes for others temps to join our project.  I quickly found at least half of the resumes that included a link to a page where the webpage resume did not match the paper resume that I had in my hand. I am not talking about a few words here or there. It was whole jobs missing from the experience section.

When my manager actually brought one of these folks in for an interview anyway I asked the job candidate why the resume did not match (it was missing his last job).  He said that he did not &quot;get around to updating&quot; his web page. The job missing from the web page resume had ended over two months before.  Thinking that he was involved in another work assignment, I asked him why it was two months later and he still had not updated his webpage.  No, he admitted that last job on the paper copy was his most recent assignment; but that a friend of his created the webpage for him and getting that friend to update the page was bothersome.

This reminds me of Number 6 - Deception.  This job candidate did not claim anywhere to have created his web page. But, it was rather simple and had a &quot;home-made&quot; quality about it leaving the impression that he I did it himself.   If I had not &quot;pressed&quot; him on this I think my manager might have very well assumed that the job candidate created it himself. I don&#039;t know if this was intential deception or not - but it was one more (in a series) of strikes against him.

As for spell cheque, your sew write.  Its knot a substitute for god old-fashion proofreading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number 1 &#8211; Objective Statements used to be a must.  I always felt they were useless because they were &#8220;required&#8221; and yet had to be very generic in order to not disqualify you.  Unfortunately, I still once in a while hear of some hiring managers who have put resumes in the &#8220;no&#8221; pile because there is no objective.  Thankfully I think they are very much in the minority.</p>
<p>Number 3 &#8211; <i>&#8220;If you include it, you look like you are still living in, like, <b>1970</b>.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Hey!  I was around in 1970; and, NO it was not the norm &#8220;back then&#8221; to include such info.  The only resumes that include such info were, and still are,  actors and other entertainers who also have to include head shots with their resume because &#8220;looks&#8221; are a part of the job requirements. Now if you had said the 1940s maybe I wouldn&#8217;t have been so bothered by your &#8220;out of touch&#8221; comment.</p>
<p>Number 4 &#8211; I do include links to my professional web page as that is where they can download samples of my training materials (I am a software trainer). Most of these materials are computer based (i.e. Flash or PowerPoint files) which do not translate well to simple paper copies.  By including the link the hiring folks can look at my samples <i>before</i> the interview.  This way they have a better idea of my skills and experience when they interview me. </p>
<p>What I think should be added is that when one does provide a link to a professional page that page must be <b>current</b>.  Last year, I was working on a temp assignment and was asked to review some resumes for others temps to join our project.  I quickly found at least half of the resumes that included a link to a page where the webpage resume did not match the paper resume that I had in my hand. I am not talking about a few words here or there. It was whole jobs missing from the experience section.</p>
<p>When my manager actually brought one of these folks in for an interview anyway I asked the job candidate why the resume did not match (it was missing his last job).  He said that he did not &#8220;get around to updating&#8221; his web page. The job missing from the web page resume had ended over two months before.  Thinking that he was involved in another work assignment, I asked him why it was two months later and he still had not updated his webpage.  No, he admitted that last job on the paper copy was his most recent assignment; but that a friend of his created the webpage for him and getting that friend to update the page was bothersome.</p>
<p>This reminds me of Number 6 &#8211; Deception.  This job candidate did not claim anywhere to have created his web page. But, it was rather simple and had a &#8220;home-made&#8221; quality about it leaving the impression that he I did it himself.   If I had not &#8220;pressed&#8221; him on this I think my manager might have very well assumed that the job candidate created it himself. I don&#8217;t know if this was intential deception or not &#8211; but it was one more (in a series) of strikes against him.</p>
<p>As for spell cheque, your sew write.  Its knot a substitute for god old-fashion proofreading.</p>
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		<title>By: carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had my objective on my resume back in 1998 when I was 19/20 and applying for my first legal secretary job.  I was just following a resume guide book and didn&#039;t know any better!  Then again, most employers were still accepting paper resumes.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;carla’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/greenandchic/~3/8P0scDBzYIQ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SkinnySkinny Sale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had my objective on my resume back in 1998 when I was 19/20 and applying for my first legal secretary job.  I was just following a resume guide book and didn&#8217;t know any better!  Then again, most employers were still accepting paper resumes.</p>
<p><abbr><em>carla’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/greenandchic/~3/8P0scDBzYIQ/" rel="nofollow">SkinnySkinny Sale</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: David B. Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B. Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff. I&#039;ve been amazed at the bad resumes I&#039;ve received over the years. One cover letter had a typo in the third word. I&#039;ve received resumes where the applicant hadn&#039;t bothered to change the objective, so that it didn&#039;t even come close to the job he was applying for.

My favorite remains the cover letter that began, &quot;Marketing is a discipline in a period of great change of which it is still evolving.&quot; I still wonder what that actually means, if anything at all.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;David B. Thomas’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/sas/SocialMedia/~3/4pWTc5Pzp_M/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If social media is the new punk rock, I guess I would be in The Knack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff. I&#8217;ve been amazed at the bad resumes I&#8217;ve received over the years. One cover letter had a typo in the third word. I&#8217;ve received resumes where the applicant hadn&#8217;t bothered to change the objective, so that it didn&#8217;t even come close to the job he was applying for.</p>
<p>My favorite remains the cover letter that began, &#8220;Marketing is a discipline in a period of great change of which it is still evolving.&#8221; I still wonder what that actually means, if anything at all.</p>
<p><abbr><em>David B. Thomas’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/sas/SocialMedia/~3/4pWTc5Pzp_M/index.php" rel="nofollow">If social media is the new punk rock, I guess I would be in The Knack</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Kerry Sandberg Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry Sandberg Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sabrina---I don&#039;t hate the Professional Profiles as much as the objective statements.  They can be useful for getting keywords you need on your resume in order to get recruiters at big companies to find you in their database.  If you&#039;re using it for that (like, for special software programs you know, or certifications, or other stuff like that), it&#039;s cool.

If it&#039;s that thing that some resume books tell you to do that has stuff like &quot;Excellent verbal and written communication skills&quot; or &quot;Team player who works well with all levels of staff,&quot; that space can be better filled with your actual achievements (unless you&#039;re right out of college and have a really short resume that needs puff to make it a full page).  It should be stuff that is &lt;em&gt;unique to you,&lt;/em&gt; not stuff that is just a list of generally fabulous things that apply to most people (at least when they&#039;re job hunting...like, I&#039;ve never seen anyone who didn&#039;t think they had Excellent Verbal and Written Communication Skills).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sabrina&#8212;I don&#8217;t hate the Professional Profiles as much as the objective statements.  They can be useful for getting keywords you need on your resume in order to get recruiters at big companies to find you in their database.  If you&#8217;re using it for that (like, for special software programs you know, or certifications, or other stuff like that), it&#8217;s cool.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s that thing that some resume books tell you to do that has stuff like &#8220;Excellent verbal and written communication skills&#8221; or &#8220;Team player who works well with all levels of staff,&#8221; that space can be better filled with your actual achievements (unless you&#8217;re right out of college and have a really short resume that needs puff to make it a full page).  It should be stuff that is <em>unique to you,</em> not stuff that is just a list of generally fabulous things that apply to most people (at least when they&#8217;re job hunting&#8230;like, I&#8217;ve never seen anyone who didn&#8217;t think they had Excellent Verbal and Written Communication Skills).</p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I removed the objective awhile back and replaced it with a &quot;Professional Profile&quot; hope that&#039;s OK? :)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sabrina’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://sabrinafaire.com/2009/06/29/well-that-was-short-lived/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Protected: Well that was short lived&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I removed the objective awhile back and replaced it with a &#8220;Professional Profile&#8221; hope that&#8217;s OK? <img src='http://www.cluewagon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><abbr><em>Sabrina’s last blog post..<a href="http://sabrinafaire.com/2009/06/29/well-that-was-short-lived/" rel="nofollow">Protected: Well that was short lived</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: abdpbt</title>
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		<dc:creator>abdpbt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I love the picture. Secondly, yeah, I always thought the objective section was odd, that along with the interests section at the end. &quot;Why would anyone care that you like to dance?&quot; as I put it to an old college boyfriend. We broke up not long thereafter.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;abdpbt’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/abdpbt/BpLg/~3/EArTfij5dKw/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;17 Things To Do If Your Governor Is Missing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I love the picture. Secondly, yeah, I always thought the objective section was odd, that along with the interests section at the end. &#8220;Why would anyone care that you like to dance?&#8221; as I put it to an old college boyfriend. We broke up not long thereafter.</p>
<p><abbr><em>abdpbt’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/abdpbt/BpLg/~3/EArTfij5dKw/" rel="nofollow">17 Things To Do If Your Governor Is Missing</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Tim G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice, as usual. The two that resonated with me the most were 1 and 7 (objective and typos). So often candidates do some customization of the objective to meet what they think the job is about. Sometimes the objective even states &quot;to get employed at xyz company&quot; or something about job security. Both would be wrong, so just leave it off. And the typos just speak to quality - how much do you care? Show it! (Oops, I mean show it, no exclamation point).

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tim G’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://saferbychoice.com/2009/06/13-frequently-given-answers-safety-investigations/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;13 Frequently Given Answers – Safety Investigations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice, as usual. The two that resonated with me the most were 1 and 7 (objective and typos). So often candidates do some customization of the objective to meet what they think the job is about. Sometimes the objective even states &#8220;to get employed at xyz company&#8221; or something about job security. Both would be wrong, so just leave it off. And the typos just speak to quality &#8211; how much do you care? Show it! (Oops, I mean show it, no exclamation point).</p>
<p><abbr><em>Tim G’s last blog post..<a href="http://saferbychoice.com/2009/06/13-frequently-given-answers-safety-investigations/" rel="nofollow">13 Frequently Given Answers – Safety Investigations</a></em></abbr></p>
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